Thoughts on OtherCon
Oct. 10th, 2021 10:47 amI said I'd post my thoughts on OtherCon 2021, so here they are.
I did enjoy it. I didn't do much socializing with other people, but I found a lot of the panels interesting. Page's talk (on the broader social patterns influencing attitudes towards us) was by far the most interesting; if you missed it it's here (I have permission from all involved to post that link).The talk itself is about thirty minutes; there's a Q & A that's about thirty minutes more.
I think the central thesis--that part of the scorn people hold for therians stems from people feeling threatened that the line between human and nonhuman is getting blurred, and that a Christian supremacism (that has been sufficiently embedded into society that it doesn't read as religious anymore) is one of the reasons why this line is so important to people--is a really good one. I'm heavily simplifying, of course.
But I'd never really considered things from that angle before. I'd considered how our existence as therians implicitly threatens the division between human and non-human animals, but I'd never linked that to Christianity as such (really, Abrahamic religions--I can say that we Jews draw the same lines, even if we didn't invent the ideology Page talks about around it). And I especially hadn't considered how even secularism would react in the same way to us for the same reasons.
I knew all those facts in isolation, I just... never drew lines connecting them.
Thinking about it now, I can see how if anything, thoroughly secular people would draw even more on the infantalizing tropes Page mentions. Fundamentalist Christians have a hard time, at least on the larger Internet, throwing shade at other people's religious beliefs. Overtly secular people have a way easier time of it, because they can cast themselves as defending Reason and Logic.
I may have missed something when listening again, but I did have a hard time understanding why non-monotheistic faiths, specifically, were viewed (by anti-otherkin) as being tied to us. I know a lot of people have various supernatural beliefs regarding their nonhuman status, and that anti-otherkin are scornful of such beliefs, but there are monotheistic people who believe in reincarnation (though they're not orthodox).
Aside from Page's talk, I only listened to a talk on science and spirituality and species euphoria. I liked the talk on species euphoria, though mentally tuned out for a pretty big chunk of it because they spent a lot of time talking about things you can wear. I definitely get how wearing a wolf tail and wolf ears could help alleviate a wolf therian's dysphoria, but the thought of wearing a cheetah tail definitely doesn't do anything for me. It can't move, and it can't feel.
The science and spirituality talk... it tried to unite theoretical physics and otherkin. This never goes well, and I wish people would stop doing that. Multiverse theory does not mean that there is a universe for every possibility and the laws of physics varying between universes does not mean that magic could exist in one.
Moving away from the talks, it was kind of cool seeing so many people gathered together, and seeing people just... doing so much stuff. Watching movies, doing various party games (I think someone started a CAH game)... even though I wasn't participating it was just kind of nice to see.
I did enjoy it. I didn't do much socializing with other people, but I found a lot of the panels interesting. Page's talk (on the broader social patterns influencing attitudes towards us) was by far the most interesting; if you missed it it's here (I have permission from all involved to post that link).The talk itself is about thirty minutes; there's a Q & A that's about thirty minutes more.
I think the central thesis--that part of the scorn people hold for therians stems from people feeling threatened that the line between human and nonhuman is getting blurred, and that a Christian supremacism (that has been sufficiently embedded into society that it doesn't read as religious anymore) is one of the reasons why this line is so important to people--is a really good one. I'm heavily simplifying, of course.
But I'd never really considered things from that angle before. I'd considered how our existence as therians implicitly threatens the division between human and non-human animals, but I'd never linked that to Christianity as such (really, Abrahamic religions--I can say that we Jews draw the same lines, even if we didn't invent the ideology Page talks about around it). And I especially hadn't considered how even secularism would react in the same way to us for the same reasons.
I knew all those facts in isolation, I just... never drew lines connecting them.
Thinking about it now, I can see how if anything, thoroughly secular people would draw even more on the infantalizing tropes Page mentions. Fundamentalist Christians have a hard time, at least on the larger Internet, throwing shade at other people's religious beliefs. Overtly secular people have a way easier time of it, because they can cast themselves as defending Reason and Logic.
I may have missed something when listening again, but I did have a hard time understanding why non-monotheistic faiths, specifically, were viewed (by anti-otherkin) as being tied to us. I know a lot of people have various supernatural beliefs regarding their nonhuman status, and that anti-otherkin are scornful of such beliefs, but there are monotheistic people who believe in reincarnation (though they're not orthodox).
Aside from Page's talk, I only listened to a talk on science and spirituality and species euphoria. I liked the talk on species euphoria, though mentally tuned out for a pretty big chunk of it because they spent a lot of time talking about things you can wear. I definitely get how wearing a wolf tail and wolf ears could help alleviate a wolf therian's dysphoria, but the thought of wearing a cheetah tail definitely doesn't do anything for me. It can't move, and it can't feel.
The science and spirituality talk... it tried to unite theoretical physics and otherkin. This never goes well, and I wish people would stop doing that. Multiverse theory does not mean that there is a universe for every possibility and the laws of physics varying between universes does not mean that magic could exist in one.
Moving away from the talks, it was kind of cool seeing so many people gathered together, and seeing people just... doing so much stuff. Watching movies, doing various party games (I think someone started a CAH game)... even though I wasn't participating it was just kind of nice to see.